Dr. John Loudon – Troy’s 2nd Physician

Troy from Mount Ida (*)/ painted by W.G. Wall ; engraved by I.R. Smith ; finished by J. Hill. Available for download at loc.gov (the Library of Congress) -*appears to be from Mt. Olympus not Ida, and is a view of Troy etched the year of Loudon’s death, 1820.

Dr. John  Loudon, (1760-1820), the second physician to arrive in Troy, became an important early member of the landowning dignitaries in Troy, known for his generosity and kindness to those with little with which to pay for care. As we shall see, he also took a robust interest in matters of religion.

I have written before of Loudon’s “dream of pigeons,” which seems to have persuaded his very reluctant brother-in-law, Jacob D. Vanderheyden, to let the Methodists buy the land our buildings now sit on. This same landowner had previously either donated land for other denominations, or sold them for one dollar.The fact that only the Methodists had to pay top rate (plus interest in the form of rental until paid off) is  one of the many signs of the distrust with which the denomination was treated in the late 18th and early 19th century. Loudon’s dream, when he had not yet officially joined the Methodist Episcopal Church, became such a legend that fifty years after his death,various newspapers nationwide were still reporting the dream story. The Cincinnati Daily , on December 8th, 1873, reported:  “The Troy Press says that the site of the State Street ME Church was selected ‘because of a dream’ upward of 50 years ago as reported by Dr. John Louden, a prominent physician(…) who was a leading member and worker of the Methodist denomination(…) the good doctor dreamed he saw a flock of white doves alight on the corner of State and Fifth Streets. The impression was so vivid that the doctor could not shake it off…”.

The seriousness with which Loudon took his decision to join the Methodist movement, despite it being deemed at best unseemly, and dangerous at worst, has left us with documentation on how much emphasis people of the time put on their spiritual wellbeing. At a time when people choose a church, if they choose one at all, on the speed the priest can get through the mass, the ability of the band, or its political bent, the idea of such theological heart-searching seems quite alien.

Loudon was born in 1760 in  Dungur, county Antrim, Ireland, of Scottish parents. Sylvester writes: “John Loudon, M. D., on his settlement in Troy as a physician and surgeon made himself known to the public by advertising in the American Spy, published in Lansingburgh, the following card: “The subscriber, having finished the studies of physic, surgery, and man midwifery at the University of Edinburgh, and practiced in Europe for some years past, now offers his services to the inhabitants of Troy. John Loudon, Troy, Feb. 14, 1793.”  (p.136) He soon began to work alongside Dr. Gale, Troy’s first physician. In 1794,  working together, the two doctors treated a  smallpox outbreak,and were reportedly “extremely successful.” They estimated Troy’s population as being 400 and 500 at that point.

A.J.Weise, in the History of the City of Troy from the Expulsion of the Mohegan Indians to the present Centennial year of independence of the United States of America , 1886  (pp 82-3) recounts a story in the Troy Gazette of July 8, 1806, which reminds us how different life in the new settlement was: “It was not an uncommon sight to see bands of wandering Indians in the streets of the village at this day. The Stockbridge tribe was more generally represented than any other of the aboriginal people of Northern New York, for they were claimants of the territory of Reensselaerwyck on the eastern side of the Hudson River, and in this respect were more in favor with the people than the Mohawks of the western side(…) On Friday, 4 July in this village two Indians we believe in the Stockbridge tribe, fell into dispute(…) Participating largely in the liberty and liquor, which usually warms the breasts of independent and unshackled patriots of all professions on the Fourth of July, and not submitting themselves to any laws, they fell into fighting.”  The elder stabbed the younger one,  who then attacked the elder one with a heavy stone, breaking his skull and beating him with his bow. Bystanders thought him dead, but after  a few minutes, he got up and walked away. Having been committed to jail, Dr. John Louden was sent for and he “trepanned the skull of the older Indian, and removed the broken parts.” The ultimate fate of the man is unreported.

The same author in his book, “Troy’s 100 Hundred Years” wrote: “I could name a number of individuals who would be an acquisition to any place, such as (…) Dr John Loudon” one of the 10 names he mentions ( p 46). Loudon had quickly become a respected member of the community. At various times he was a fire warden, village trustee, assistant alderman when Troy was first made a city, a (Methodist) church trustee, previously an elder in the Presbyterian Church, and surgeon for the 1st Regiment, 2nd brigade, under Gilbert Eddy. He was married twice but there is no evidence of him having any surviving children

Like the majority of early arrivals in Troy, Loudon was Presbyterian, and had been a keen student of religion since his teenage years. Like many others he had grown up within strict Scottish Presbyterian traditions: John Knox studied with John Calvin in Geneva in the 16th century, and created the Church of Scotland – the Scottish Presbyterian church – when he returned home. The first dedicated religious building was a small white wooden building in what is now Sage Park, at the corner of Congress Street and 2nd Street.  As Troy grew, numerous other Presbyterian churches sprung up, many a couple of hundred yards from another. Gradually other denominations built buildings – the Baptists, Episcopalians and Quakers all built early places of worship. In 1808, the Methodists who had been meeting in private homes in and around State Street for 15 years, decided they wanted to build on a lot beside the common land at Fifth Street (now Avenue.) When they asked to buy the lot, the owner, Jacob D. Vanderheyden refused but John Loudon secured the purchase through his compelling dream – and family influence (his second wife, Blandina Owen, was the sister of Vanderheyden’s second wife, Mary).

Was Dr. Loudon already intrigued by Methodist challenges to Calvin? He would of course have known some of Troy’s leading businessmen who were Methodists, even working in official village business alongside them: Stephen Andres, Le Grand Cannon, Mahlon Taylor, Oliver Boutwell and Samuel Goodrich, the principal of the small school which stood in what is now Sage Park. Did he meet some of the very early but dedicated Irish Methodists before he emigrated? Or was he simply aware that his brother-in-law was singling out this one group in a prejudicial way and it offended his sense of fair play? We cannot know, unless something written by him comes to light. Either way, he came to the aid of the small Methodist society and they were successful in getting the land, even if they paid exorbitantly for it.

Less than two years later, Loudon relinquished his membership in the Presbyterian Church and became a Methodist. The letters he wrote to his Presbyterian pastor, Troy’s first clergyman, Dr. Coe, and his Presbyterian congregation, became the basis for a long obituary written by William Ross. It was  published in two parts in the Methodist Review magazine in May and August of 1820, within weeks of his death. The article shows the serious way Loudon made his decision and his careful study of the pertinent differences between the thinking of Calvin and Wesley. Loudon may have been unusual in explaining his thought process as he surrendered his title of elder in the Presbyterian Church, but from the few hints we get from the journals and the books held dear by early Methodists, clergy and lay, his understanding of the theory of religion was not unique: people wanted to be sure their soul was right with almighty God, and they wanted to know it for themself.

So here are some of Loudon’s own words on why he was renouncing a Calvinist world view, for an Arminian understanding (Jan Arminius was  a Dutch Reformed Church theologian and influencer of John Wesley.) If you want to know a little bit more about what Loudon is discussing here, or to understand his points, I have posted immediately before this article, on this website, a comparison of Calvinist and Armenian thought in modern language,  and includes links to more information.)

In 1810, after sending this letter, Dr. Loudon joined the State Street Methodists. Ross quotes him: “I beg your attention for a few moments, while I address you as the congregation of this church. By your appointment, I’ve had the honor of holding the office of Elder among you, I now resign that office to you, because I cannot in conscience hold the doctrines, which are taught in this church, and which are supported by the Session in general. In the first place, they say God directs by his sovereign agency all things. To this, I reply: though God is the author of every good and perfect gift, yet he neither determines nor directs the sins of any of his creatures.… In the second place, they held that God in the dispensation of his grace through Jesus Christ gives two kinds of grace, the one sovereign and special, and the other common. To this, I answer the grace of God, which brings salvation has appeared unto all  men and there are not two kinds of grace, one real, and the other counterfeit, but there is but one kind. It may differ in degree but not in equality (…)They say in the third place, that having received a special grace, they never can fall from it, nor make shipwreck of their faith. In answer to this, I would refer you to all the cautions and admonitions given to the church.(…) To differ in some speculative points and religion has been common in all periods of the church; but for members of the same church to differ in the first and most essential principles of religion, has not been so common.“

Loudon then expanded on these points, adding quotations from the Bible, for each objection. 

In the following month’s magazine, the obituary continued with comments on Loudon’s character. Ross writes: “He first became acquainted with the Methodist in this city (…) When he joined us, our church in this place was inconsiderable and obscure(…) Both as a private citizen, and as a practicing physician, he was highly respected. As a citizen in common life, he endeavored to promote peace, propriety, and good order, in every department of society. This he did, not only by precepts, but also by examples of sobriety, industry, and economy. He was a lover of peace; – honesty, plainness, and candour were conspicuous traits in his character. As a physician, he was deservingly honored, not only on account of his knowledge of the healing art, but in consequence of a judicious and successful application of that knowledge. And without derogating from others of the same profession, it may be said he was the poor man’s doctor. Let the poor of Troy testify how often he has entered the habitations, lighted up the lamp of hope, and the blessing of God, restored health to the sick without money and without price. But this is not the best, Dr. Loudon was a Christian. And in him, the Christian graces shone with particular luster(…) Such was the confidence we had in his integrity, that he was considered as a pillar in the church, and as a father in the congregation of the Saints(…) He was, however, particularly united in Christian affection to those with whom he was connected in church fellowship(…) In life and in death he evinced a laudable desire for the temporal, as well as spiritual, prosperity of the church.— For a series of years, he gave liberally of his earthly substance for the support of religious worship, and for the comfort of the servants of Christ, who were engaged in spreading the influence of evangelical truth. And as a monument of his benevolence in death, we are now in possession of a good dwelling-house, together with necessary appurtenances, designed to be a permanent residence for the minister stationed in Troy.

Ross concludes: “Although God had given him a robust constitution, yet his exposures in the performance of his professional duties were so frequent and great, that a number of times he was brought to the borders of the grave.“  In fact, Loudon had contracted tuberculosis in the exercise of his duty, and a few months before his death, a heavy cold had made his condition worse. For his last four weeks he was bed-bound, where, we are told, he was visited by “people of all classes” with whom he spoke about spirituality. He died in his 60th year, on Saturday,  February 12th 1820, at his residence on the northeast corner of Second and Ferry Streets, where his widow lived for twenty years after his death. The Central Library is now at that location.

Dr. Loudon had a considerable list of property from his large practice in and around Troy. The handwritten inventory, which is in the collection of the Hart-Cluett Museum,  lists all his possessions at the time of his death. It includes many pages of furnishings, household goods, clothing (6 nightcaps!), and a list of debtors, which show that he loaned money to people as diverse as church members and city entrepreneurs with business ideas, to widows needing help with daily expenses. He also owned several  properties at that time: the house he reportedly donated to the church was at 141 3rd Street, and had previously been his surgery.

A few years before his death, Loudon had been named to a committee to organize the laying out of a new cemetery. That plot was plowed over by the city around 1990. It seems possible Loudon and his wife, along with many early Methodists were buried there, as were  other Vanderheydens, as many of those early names do not occur in surviving cemeteries, or appear as names of those reinterred when cemetery land was re-purposed. The cemetery is now a patch of empty ground at the end of Cypress Street, just off Congress Street, and is flanked by the Poestenkills Gorge and Falls, and Prospect Park.

Janet Douglass, Troy, May 2026.

The disused cemetery was the subject of a YouTube video by Dr Rubinstein, who has researched many such areas in the city.  Search his videos on You Tube under Dr RGST: The Cultural Historian.

The books and magazine quoted are all available online and can be read without charge:

Methodist magazine ran 1818-1828 and is available on Google Books, as are 

Troy’s 100 years by A.J. Weise, 1891, and The History of the City of Troy, from the expulsion of the Mohegan Indians to the present centennial year of the independence of the United States of America, also  by A.J. Weise, 1876.

A History of Rensselaer County by Nathaniel Bartlett Sylvester,1880 

Troy and Rensselaer County, New York; a History: by Rutherford Hayner, 1925 are available at archive.org, the Internet Archive of the Library of Congress

The Hart-Cluett Museum is located on 2nd Street in downtown Troy and researchers can be book time in the Research Library, by going to their website: hartcluett.org 

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“All Means All” – Wesleyan Methodism v. Calvinist Protestantism

A summary of Methodist ideas to accompany and clarify the next two essays

This is a brief review of the shock-waves caused by the introduction of Wesleyan ideas into the Protestant world of the 18th century, and why Methodist teaching felt both scandalous and dangerous to many well-meaning and seriously faithful Christians. This essay is for those who want to better understand the issues of the two essays that follow it. Today most Methodists and Presbyterians never give any of this much thought, though in the evangelical, most Calvinist wing of the church, these same issues do come up quite frequently and Wesley, his mentor, Arminius, as well as Methodists can be deemed in error.

So very briefly: the Protestant Reformation is deemed to have started when a Roman Catholic priest, Martin Luther, challenged the might of Rome in 95 “theses.” The main thrust was that people are saved by their faith alone, and that studying the Bible is what teaches us how to be people of faith. After Luther, “protestant” theologians sprang up in several countries, but John Calvin and Huldrych Zwingli in Switzerland, and John Knox in Scotland became the main proponents. Many of the first leaders of Troy were New Englanders whose families had been influenced by the Scottish Presbyterian church, founded by Knox.

The Roman Catholic and Protestant churches all have St. Augustine as the basis of their understanding. Writing in the late 4th and early 5th centuries, it was Augustine who broke one of the last ties with the Jewish faith of Jesus, with his emphasis on “original sin” which replaced the idea Jesus would have known: “original blessing.” Once original sin – the idea that humanity is “sinful”, right from birth – was accepted wisdom, the question became: if we are all all broken, how do we become whole – how does someone get right with God? It took a few hundred years, but eventually a large body of Christians decided it could not be decided by priests or bishops, or even a pope; nor could it be by being able to buy favor through deeds or donations (the medieval “indulgences”, Luther decried) –  it had to be a personal decision; it had to be about having the right faith as revealed in the Bible: this was the essence of the protestant reformation.

Calvin, Zwingli and Knox were the main explainers of this new take on faith, but they had challengers and chief among them was a minister of the Dutch Reformed church, Jacobus Armenius, and it was his arguments, not Calvin’s, which convinced John Wesley, founder of Methodism. The two understandings of the nature of God and how one “gets right” with God are incompatible, often in complete opposition. There are many resources to help someone understand these two opposing views and links follow my essay, but here is a short summary of Wesley’s objections to the already well established Calvinism of his day.

“The Five Points of Calvinism” are occasionally known by the acrostic TULIP: Total Depravity, Unconditional Election, Limited Atonement, Irresistible Grace, and Perseverance of the Saints.  Wesley’s followers created their own four point summary of their faith from his writings: the Four Alls.

In Calvinism, Total Depravity means that everyone is born to sin, that loving God is unnatural for humans, and are therefore morally incapable of being “saved”, redeemed, or becoming holy, unless God affects it for them. Unconditional Election is the option that God chose, at the beginning of time, who would be elevated to being in relationship with God, regardless of their deeds and even, as we will see, will: the rest get to suffer the wrath they deserve for being born sinful (I realize you may be thinking what I do here…but I am just telling you what Calvinist belief is… I am obviously not Calvinist.) Limited Atonement decrees that only the elect, as above, get to enjoy the benefits of Christ’s atonement, that is, are forgiven for being born sinful. Irresistible Grace claims that because some people were chosen by almighty God, those people are acceptable to God whether they like the idea or not, because God cannot be resisted, and Perseverance of the Saints  just means that because God chose them and they are saved and put right with God, they cannot lose that status. (If they later do something really heinous, then that shows they were never really one of the elect.)

In contrast, John Wesley, basing his writings on Arminius, denounced Total Depravity and declared people were not depraved but alienated – without a knowledge of God; instead of Unconditional Election, Wesley believed people can choose to be one with God, to choose to be God-fearing (God-loving). Instead of Limited Atonement, he proclaimed that God’s love is freely available to all  –  if they want it; as for Irresistible Grace:  for Wesley, grace is not irresistible – someone can choose to resist God’s grace, so they have a choice to make. Lastly, instead of Perseverance of the Saints, Wesley wrote that people can have a sense of security and assurance in their faith, but that a life with God should bear the marks of that life in the way it is lived. It includes a call for holy living, so that the person does not fall back out of the state of grace.

So Wesleyan theology is sometimes summed up as being about the “Four Alls”:

All need to be saved (put in right relationship with God)

All can be saved (all does mean all)

All can know they are saved (feel reassured of being accepted by God)

All can be saved to the uttermost (we can continue to grow in holiness)

When the first Methodists arrived in the village, later city, of Troy, it was almost exclusively Protestant, and overwhelmingly Presbyterian. Of the other early faith groups – the Baptists were also strongly Calvinist; only the smaller group of Quakers, and the Episcopalians were not. A few decades later, Lutherans, Roman Catholics, Universalists and Unitarians and other faith groups arrived, less linked with Calvin, but the first pioneers of Troy, and especially the leaders would have considered, like most migrated New Englanders and recent European immigrants of the day, that Methodist teaching was radical, absurd, not sensible and probably dangerous.

What matters is: people took their faith and the concern of their eternal condition extremely seriously. What would happen to your eternal soul if you chose the wrong option? And in this choice the Methodist way was both more recent and a minority opinion: novel in every sense. But there was also something in this message that gave ordinary people hope and excitement, as we can tell by the fervor with which they embraced the teaching of preachers and those who spoke at the frequent revivals and camp meetings.

It is against that background that we see the likes of Dr. John Loudon so deliberately and ponderously, even shockingly,  take a deliberate step away from the majority denomination of the early leadership of Troy, of which he was a member, renounce his Presbyterian membership, and join the Methodists. His treatise, printed over two magazine articles after his death, is testimony to the amount of theological research and thought and prayer he put into that decision. Two hundred years on, it is almost impossible for us to imagine or believe that all this took up so much of people’s time and waking thoughts. The fact that it did explains the difficulty of bringing a new faith idea into the public conscience, which was what our early State Street Methodists were aiming to do, despite public opposition. The following essay features Dr. Loudon, and the one after that describes the physical violence early Methodist preachers endured for their convictions and the mockery and prejudice faced by the Methodist societies.

Janet Douglass, Troy, NY

May 2026.

There is an excellent and succinct 11- minute video on YouTube, which can be found by searching for “The Four Alls: Summarizing Wesleyan Theology” by Rev. Daniel Hixon. It includes the New Testament verses Wesley created these all from, if you need further information on why he affirms these things.

From the internet site, The Voice: Biblical theological resources for grown Christians: “Tulip Calvinism compared to Wesleyan Perspectives” by Dennis Bratcher ” at  https://www.crivoice.org/tulip.html or search for TULIP Calvinism and Wesleyan by Dennis Bratcher for a handy chart with the differences side-by-side.

There are also many contemporary arguments in favor of a Calvinist approach available on the web, as both text discussions and on YouTube.